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daniellejewelry says: |
So what do you feel is the difference between the "indie craft world" and the "established craft world?" Is is a generation thing...an education thing...a hobby vs career thing...a no kits allowed thing?
I have been in the "established" craft world for about 13 years...but still don't feel accepted. I have never done an "indie" craft show, but I don't think my work would fit in. I kind of feel in between two worlds. Say, come to think of it...I kind of have felt this way about my whole life! ;)
Anyway...I'd love to hear some interesting points of view on this subject. |
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Posted at 4:44 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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LaVogue says: |
I tend to think of 'indie' as youth culture. It probably isn't, and you will be sure to hear if that is the case!
if something is called 'indie', and is "out there", it's already not 'indie'. |
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Posted at 4:46 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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daniellejewelry says: |
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LaVogue, But who's to say what is "out there?" Is doing a craft show or selling your work on line mean you are "out there?" Or is it a fashion editor for INSTYLE that decides? ;) |
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Posted at 4:51 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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StartsandFits says: |
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indie corresponds to a movement and to a general set of values more than anything else, progressive and grassroots among them. |
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Posted at 5:04 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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Sallyent says: |
danielle, I work in the fields of art, craft and design for museums and galleries and have worked with every level imaginable. at the end of the day I would say the only person who can define or categorise work in this way, is the maker themself.
i'm also working on a definition of DIY craft and have come to the (not very helpful) conclusion that there is no definition, just a range of characteristics - the more of those a piece of work demonstrates, the more they become part of the DIY movement - it's the least fallible way I've found so far of explaining how things are or aren't DIY crafts (there's a few bits of my research posted to the blog here if you're interested... http://www.myspace.com/sallyfort )
it's a minefield basically! |
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Posted at 5:09 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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daniellejewelry says: |
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StartsandFits, I still don't understand how that differs from the "other" craft world. I'm not being cynical...I truly don't understand. I know the "established" craft world has become somewhat elitist in some circles...but it got it's start as a grassroot movement... |
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Posted at 5:09 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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Sallyent says: |
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Yup I agree with you there, there are lots of shared values in both areas. Myabe one difference could be - established crafts has access to public funding; indie craft tends to be more entrepreneurial? don't know - that one just occurred to me, might not be fully accurate but it pretty much is in the UK anyway. |
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Posted at 5:12 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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StartsandFits says: |
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The indie craft movement was generated through passionate people using traditional crafts as a platform for self-reliance and DIY to circumvent corporate power, big box stores, sweat shops, slave labor, etc. Fine art is grassroots in some respects, but throughout the late 70s and 80s it became very much qualified by the elite art world. The indie craft movement is much more focused on how to make a statement through actions in making crafts that are utilitarian rather than art for art's sake. |
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Posted at 5:16 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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Sallyent says: |
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Does that mean everyone who is an indie crafter is trying to make a statement? I'm not sure every single one of them is explicitly trying to be political (granted implicitly their choices may be) but personally, I wouldn't feel so assured with that suggestion. I love this discussion! |
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Posted at 5:19 pm, March 24 2008 EST - Report this post
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