Home > The Storque > Etsy News > Etsy, I See Copyright Infringement

Recent comments
Polu Kala! Where in Greece are they from? Thanks for ...
by aegeansea
on Gotta Travel On: A D...

This is invaluable information for me---thank you so much for ...
by everythingworks
on A DIY-Friendly Guide...

YAY!! EFA!! Artist Helping Animals, doesn't get any better than ...
by UberDuperCreations
on Etsy for Animals: Wo...

I'm curious, like a few others, as to how exactly ...
by geekxnerd
on The Long View: Rob &...

great video!
by sheridesthelion
on Make a Hammock and R...

What a wonderful article. It goes to show that hard ...
by clearlakecreations
on Quit Your Day Job: D...

If you shove some wooden poles or some such in ...
by fugsly
on Make a Hammock and R...
Etsy, I See Copyright Infringement
Article Header Image

What's flagging? It's how Etsians can report items to Etsy admin. People flag for many reasons. Copyright infringement is just one example, and SarahSays will be discussing this below.

Another example: if concerned members of the community spot someone selling a mass-produced item on Etsy, they can notify the Etsy admin (without the suspected seller knowing who the reporter is) by clicking the link to "Report this item to Etsy." Then the matter is up to the Etsy admin to investigate in a way that doesn't involve calling sellers out in public. 



However,
concerned Etsians may not understand what qualifies as copyright infrigement and Etsy's role in the process, and as a result flag too much. In this article, SarahSays will explain copyright infringement and the role of the copyright holder.

Concerned members of our community often flag items due to the appearance of infringement.  For example, a member may flag a handmade t-shirt with a silk screened image of an iconic cartoon character. Later, the member may become frustrated, disappointed or confused when the item remains on Etsy.

Intellectual property rights are very important to Etsy.  When Etsy receives a complaint from a copyright owner, Etsy, as a venue, attempts to remedy the situation.  Etsy treats all complaints seriously, whether the complaint is from a well known company, an individual, or from an Etsy member.

However, under United States copyright law, only the legal or beneficial owner of an exclusive right under a copyright is entitled to take action.  In other words, copyright owners are responsible for policing their own rights and bear the cost of policing.

In the case of the silk screened t-shirt, the owner of the copyright of the cartoon character has the right to decide how to proceed.  If copyright owner believes that the use is infringing, the owner might ask a seller to stop selling the items.  Alternatively, the owner might ask the seller to enter into a licensing agreement.  The copyright owner could like the t-shirts and the publicity; the owner might choose to allow the use.  It is not up to Etsy or a community member to decide what use of a character should and should not be allowed.

Also, an Etsy seller may have permission to use a copyrighted image in their handmade items.  Some Etsy sellers have licenses with companies to use certain intellectual property.  In fact, certain Etsy sellers have entered into agreements with other Etsy sellers for the benefit of both parties.

Let me know what you think about this topic!

This information is for educational and informational purposes only. The content should not be construed as legal advice. The author and Etsy, Inc. disclaim all responsibility for any and all losses, damages, or causes of action that may arise or be connected with the use of these materials. Please consult a licensed attorney in your area with specific legal questions or concerns.



Related Items
This article was reported by:
Etsy Admin SarahSays
shop . profile . contact

tags Tags copyright, copyright infringement, infringment, intellectual property, Legal Info for Artists
32 comments     Login to add your own!
Etsy Admin HeyMichelle says:

Copyright law is confusing for a lot of people- thanks for clearing this up!


10/30/07 at 4:43p.m.
wired says:

Well-written and concise. Great article. I think that if people have agreements to use copyrighted material then it would benefit them to add that to their listings too.


10/30/07 at 4:45p.m.
babastudioPrague says:

Very clear - thanks. We are actually currently in discussion with an Etsy jewellery maker who would like to use our images. It sounds like it could be an exciting and beneficial project all round if it works out!


10/30/07 at 4:50p.m.
davewright says:

I would think that Etsy would err on the site of protecting an artist's work.

I would venture a guess that less than one percent of the people on Etsy who are using copyrighted material in their works actually have the legal right to do so - and of course it's not possible for a copyright holder to police the entire internet, not to mention the physical world.

I'd be happier to see a policy in place that required a seller to show proof of a licensing agreement before using another artist's copyrighted material. That would be an extra step for people who wanted to sell licensed works, but it's not unusual. Photographers submitting stock images are required to submit signed model releases, for instance.

A policy like that would be a step towards protecting creative people.


10/30/07 at 4:54p.m.
AmorDePlata says:

Great article, especially the part about some sellers having permission to use copyrighted material.


10/30/07 at 5:21p.m.
dmriceart says:

Excellent step in the right direction, Sarahsays! It is so important for Etsy to be a positive role model site in this situation, and I believe the Etsy policy on handling this subject is moving forward in a great way!

Thanks much for the article!


10/30/07 at 5:23p.m.
PoPkO says:

i ahve never been able to flag ANYTHING because i dont have the program to send an email from that link. i wish there was a form it could take me to instead. i just dont have time ot go to my personal email account, copy info, paste, send etc. A form would be a lot more concise, wouldnt it? It would help answer WHY its being flagged immedaitely.


10/30/07 at 5:36p.m.
crimsoncat05 says:

I guess I see a few things missing from this article... maybe you could expand on the process for people??

Like, for instance, if I had flagged that T-shirt to Etsy admin, would I get an e-mail from Etsy directing me to contact the copyright holder myself??

Would I get an e-mail saying that *Etsy* doesn't get in the middle of these things?? (*Does* Etsy get in the middle of these things?? my understanding was no... am I wrong??)

Maybe you could include some information in this article about what, if anything, would happen as a result of the item in this specific example being flagged to Etsy admin... what are the next steps, and how does the *flagger* get their concerns answered??


10/30/07 at 5:50p.m.
jmaccknit says:

Why are there scarves under this article? Did I miss something...


10/30/07 at 5:52p.m.
Etsy Admin stellaloella says:

The scarves have fringe. You know, for copyright inFRINGEment. (Come on, it's clever, really!)


10/30/07 at 6:02p.m.
littlellama says:

Omg, I love these pictures! And I figured it out all on my own :)


10/30/07 at 6:11p.m.
SeaFindDesigns says:

EXCELLENT ARTICLE! I say to everyone EDUCATE yourself as well! Before I started on Etsy I did a huge sweep on copyright.gov and the TM websites to make sure I wasn't infringing on any names or descriptions I use for my sea glass. One week in to Etsy and I was notified by a non-Etsian that I was guilty of copyright infringement for intellectual property DESIGN. Logically, I asked for the registration numbers, which the party could not provide!!! They were deceitful. My point being that had I not educated myself, I may have believed the accuser and allowed myself to be bullied! So make sure you check before you accuse or just to arm yourself!!

p.s. She called me an intellectual thief!! Which I plan to copyright and sell!!!!


10/30/07 at 6:21p.m.
tiffanyharvey says:

While only the owner of the copyright can take legal action, surely Etsy could have a rule against illegal use of copyright images? I find it sad that Etsy would not want to take more of a stand against this.


10/30/07 at 6:40p.m.
metalheartjewelry says:

great article. i'm glad to hear that etsy doesn't waste a ton of money trying to get into the middle of others' copyright issues, when it doesn't have standing anyway.


10/30/07 at 7:21p.m.
miriam says:

excellent article... I'm really concerned about this questions... thanks for explain to us.
;)*


10/30/07 at 8:15p.m.
cinemadeverre says:

excellent- thank you!!


10/30/07 at 8:36p.m.
LAVENDERDRAGONHERBS says:

I agree with DavidWright and TiffanyHarvey

And my question is how is a company or person that is having their copyrighted items illegally used on Etsy supposed to even know about it?? Some might not even know of or about Etsy at all.

And I also agree that if a shop has permissionto use a said copyright that they should post it in their listing as to cut down on the # of flaggings and forum posts on the subject.


10/30/07 at 9:48p.m.
anickascottage says:

BIG Brother is ALWAYS watching!
Google searches bring them right to it.

Great article


10/30/07 at 10:19p.m.
CityPretties says:

It's also an option, if you find something you think is a copyright infringement, to alert the actual copyright owner. Like if someone is selling a t-shirt with Daffy Duck on it, instead of flagging it, contact Time-Warner and let them know that someone is using their product.

They'll decide if it's worth pursuing.

The most diligent copyright infringement hunters I've ever seen are Tom Cruise's lawyers and Tiffany jewelers.


10/31/07 at 12:05a.m.
quirkybags says:

I would like to see this information added to Etsy's Copyright FAQ page.

As I understand it, Etsy will enforce copyright only if they are asked to by the owner. It seems that we are needlessly wasting our time and Admin's time by flagging these items (unless, of course, we are the copyright holder).


10/31/07 at 1:59a.m.
fadingflowers says:

I not even sure if reporting items that are copyright works. I pretty much gave up reporting on an items that I see. Numerous of times I have reported an item that was copyrighted, but no one came to address this matter.


10/31/07 at 10:27a.m.
Etsy Admin SarahSays says:

Thanks for the comments. Etsy's Copyright Policy is http://www.etsy.com/copyright_policy.php

(the link is also at the bottom of the page).

Sarah


10/31/07 at 10:31a.m.
PocoMutts says:

Great article! Thanks for the valuable information!


10/31/07 at 11:48a.m.
davewright says:

From the copyright policy, http://www.etsy.com/copyright_policy.php

"It is Etsy’s policy to (1) block access to or remove material that it believes in good faith to be copyrighted material that has been illegally posted by any of our buyers, sellers, members or users; and (2) remove and discontinue service to repeat offenders."

From the above article:
"In other words, copyright owners are responsible for policing their own rights and bear the cost of policing."

Mixed messages. Which is it? Does Etsy remove copyrighted material, or does it wait for the copyright owner to contact them?


10/31/07 at 3:41p.m.
davewright says:

"Intellectual property rights are very important to Etsy."

Or so they say. However, they're taking a very weak stand on the issue.


10/31/07 at 3:46p.m.
Etsy Admin SarahSays says:

davewright:

The first piece of information Etsy needs is laid out in the Copyright Policy:

1. A physical or electronic signature of a person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright that has been allegedly infringed;

Etsy is a venue and complies with the DMCA.

Sarah


10/31/07 at 3:49p.m.
alexart says:

hey jmaccknit,

I didn't get the scarves either. I did notice the fringe but thought they meant they were copying each other. Hence,copyright. Duh. Oh well,

Just wanted you to know you weren't alone

julie


10/31/07 at 7:47p.m.
curlyfrysc says:

...they haven't been illegally posted so they can remain on the site. anyway, this article needs to be posted on the forums so people will stop being "report-happy" and go about their business!


11/1/07 at 1:59a.m.
randomsupplies says:

what about if it's an infamous copyright issue that the copyright holder has previously pursued against etsy...like Hello Kitty...should we flag THOSE items?


11/7/07 at 7:48p.m.
msotherdenartglass says:

It bothers me that etsy is not more proactive about this. I've seen ebay auctions pulled for people violating licensee agreements, copyright infringements, you name it. I wish if all the evidence is piled in front of etsy that they would take the extra step to ask the flagged shop for proof of permission.


11/8/07 at 10:24p.m.
babyagoogoo says:

What about "Pop Art"?

Is it fair game to paint a picture of an iconic toy or doll?

Is that copyright infringement?


11/20/07 at 12:23p.m.
starbrightgirl says:

I'm curious about the above as well..

Also - what about the usage of phrases or quotes - would this be copyright inringement too?


4/3/08 at 9:28a.m.
Previous Page | Next Page