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Search: Relevancy vs. Latest Renewal?

I'm a bit confused. I know that searches within Etsy are now relevancy based, but does renewing items still keep your items at the top of the pages? For example. There are a gazillion jewelry sellers on Etsy. Do the shops that renew show up first vs. the shops that don't?

Does that make sense? Can anybody shed some light on this?
Thanks!

Michael

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in the categories it's most recent, in relevancy recency is part of the algorithm
So it still pays to renew....
if you search by category they are by recency.
I do still get a burst of views when I renew and it's not from categories because I don't get many views from categories.
I use Etsy On Sale (www.etsyonsale.com/) to auto renew my items at scheduled times. I just wanted to make sure that recency still factored in.
Michael Jon Watt from TransitDesign says

So it still pays to renew....

As a very busy supplier on etsy, I have questioned this several times.
I can see an advantage by doing short, renewals, in each category, Keeping in mind that most categories will only display 1-2 items on the 1st page . 2nd and subsequent. So it is best to only renew a few item in each category to get the most bang for your buck
You can answer this question by yourself. Just go and do a search for a common item. Use all items when the search results come up change the way you view the page to list view (top right corner) and look at the time that these first page listings were submitted. Recency certainly plays a roll for a newly listed item, but it is not the deciding factor about what listings get page ranking. You should see newly listed items next to items listed many days or week ago next to each other.

Recency needs to be a part of the algarithm so that the same 30 items do not always come up on the first page, which would result in less searches and overall less sales for the venue
Renewing still helps with relevancy, but I think it's better to renew a few things at a time than your whole shop at once. I see this happening a lot in the 'recently listed' ticker.
When the switch to relevancy was first made, a few months ago, the items from my shop that ranked the highest under relevancy were often those that had been listed a long time (and, in many instances were items that I hadn't tried to optimise the titles and tags for! Go figure!!)
However, i checked again recently, and my most recently listed or renewed items seem to be ranking the highest under relevancy now. So recency definitely appears to be part of the relevancy algorithm - and much more so than it was a few months ago. I will be keeping a close eye on this to see whether the trend persists - and whether it is worth spending a sizeable amount on renewing each month (I feel the jury is still out on this one - particularly as the relevancy algorithm still seems to be in a state of flux).

I suspect that etsy want to continue to generate revenue from constant renewing. Perhaps the Search Ads haven't been the success they had hoped for - and they are are looking for alternative ways to recoup the revenue that they lost when the switch from recency to relevancy (under Search) was first introduced -- and fewer people renewed as a result

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