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I know you have done a lot of "hands on" research Jana and I really do understand what you are saying and agree with the logic of it. It would just be great if Etsy's programers could figure out an algorithm that prevented massive repetition on the early pages of broad based searches without compromising the smaller more specific searches. Without our feedback how are they supposed to know?

I'm sure they check things, but there's nothing more valuable than actual user feedback. I believe they welcome and read our feedback. That's the reason I post in the forums.
corrine from blingitongirl says Edited on Jun 28, 2012
"Usually if they don't return it is because 1) it is not a bug or 2) others have adequately answered the question. I spend a lot of time helping people in the Bugs forum & if the post isn't really a bug & other members offer a valid explanation, the thread will often not get admin attention. It varies, of course, but when they are busy I can see why that happens."

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I guess that's my point. Unless you are a computer programmer, engineer, IT tech, I don't consider my question as having 'been answered'. I don't know how else to say it.....
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well, if the question has been asked multiple times & admin has explained it is not a bug, I feel fairly confident in explaining that admin has previously said this is not a bug. I don't really need to be an engineer to repeat that sort of reply.

If it were something completely new with no previous admin replies that I have seen, I could only speculate & would make that clear that I hadn't seen this raised before. That's not the case here.
Rene Berry from BerryPatchUSA says
I know you have done a lot of "hands on" research Jana and I really do understand what you are saying and agree with the logic of it. It would just be great if Etsy's programers could figure out an algorithm that prevented massive repetition on the early pages of broad based searches without compromising the smaller more specific searches.
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I would not be surprised if the engineers agreed with you on wanting to break things up a tiny bit more. Once in a while I see those searches I posted about change to 40 different sellers on the first page, but they always eventually go back to repeats. So it might be that tech staff are still tinkering with this particular issue, & don't like the side effects & user behaviour they see when they "fix" it. Algorithms are complicated like that.

But of course the occasional temporary changes I see in those searches might also be side effects of other changes & that the staff don't see a problem with repeats. We an only speculate there :)
Cindy,

I was not asking you to refrain from answering questions in a discussion. I was going to do an experiment without stating why. I was hoping to test, not discuss. As you have suggested yourself before, "test it" to prove as admin asks for proof. But I cannot do that apparently, as I would need you to refrain from saying anything.

I guess I am done here.

Rene, I agree, that if I was searching simply 'bracelet' and there was a huge cluster of items from 1 seller on page 10, that would seem buggy. But because there are only about 11 pages of items for 'baby bracelet' that have the correct title/tags for that search, it makes sense that 1 shop's items might cluster somewhere within the 10 pages.
I am not sure what kind of valid search test would require me not to reply - sounds interesting! LOL

Jana, I noticed that too. Once you get to the bottom of page 11 of the baby bracelet search, people no longer have the phrase in the tags. So the cluster on page 10 is the very last of the people who have tagged correctly. If more people tagged this search correctly, that might break up a little more. That does make a lot of sense given what admin has said about relevancy.
Jana - I agree it is completely understandable that would happen a lot for smaller searches. If you search my local searches I come up in huge clusters for some searches.

Etsy changed things up a bit this morning, but there is still some pretty terrible clustering going on in some very large searches. There is one right now with a cluster of 48 on page 5 and 6 in a search of 300,000 results. This is the kind of thing I am hoping will get rectified. Again... I know it's not an easy fix and I trust Etsy is working on it.
& Corinne, I do hope you get answers that satisfy you. I am not trying to prevent that; I am trying to make sure that if you never get an admin answer to this (which would be common, happens to me all of the time!) that there are answers & links in this thread, so people better understand relevancy. Lots of lurkers out there too :)

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