According to new Etsy interpretation, could I
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A) Team up with a photographer pal to take my photos since, even after all this time, I will ***never*** be a photographer and I could use the assistance?
B) Hire her to help me produce bracelets if one line looks like it might take off and I might need help creating multiples of that one design? If I mention it is my design but might be her hands stringing, would that fly the Etsy new rules?
C) Resell wire-wrapped rings another friend makes IF I hire her as an employee to make them AND disclose it in the listing? I wouldn't be buying them as a finished product, she'd be making them to my specs, so wouldn't that go along with the no reseller rule?
Please Admin, clarify for me so I know what I can and CANNOT do.....
TY!
Posted at 11:41pm Aug 13, 2008 EDT
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Of course you could just email admin and ask them this.
Posted at 3:00pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
why o why does it seem that etsy will be going the route of ebay??? (remembering back to the ebay of the early 90's and how it eventually corporatized itself into 'just another selling site')
this depresses me
Posted at 3:01pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
heres a post from stella regarding employees
Handmade by YOU (which could be a plural "you" in a variety of arrangements) is the key for Etsy.
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I wish I could be a plural "you", I'd get so much more done!
Posted at 3:02pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
you wouldnt have to be really big to have an employee, many small businesses have a couple of employees. and the worries here are that bigger businesses can slip in now
Posted at 3:02pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
I guess if its only a few hours a week but minimum wage here is around $9/hr, plus paying into the various taxgrabs the gov't has...
Posted at 3:05pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
It appears to me that the new rules would allow General Motors to sell cars on Etsy. They are all made by employees of the firm. All they would have to do is furnish names.
I know this is absurd, but I do think it meets the new rules.
Posted at 3:06pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
What it comes down to is MONEY, the more a shop can list the more money Etsy makes!
Dollar signs are clouding the vision of what Etsy was suppose to be!
Posted at 3:12pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
I see that this is still a topic of interest for many sellers. Our policies are stated in the DOs & DON'Ts. Please remember that you cannot take one portion of the rules separate from the rest.
Yes, we have policies that allow for multiple people to be involved in a shop, either as a collective (requirements for which are defined in detail in the D&D) or via the use of production assistance (again, detailed in the D&D). In either case, disclosure is key. All shops must state who made (or helped to make) the item and the relationship between individuals involved in a single shop.
Several people in these threads have brought up the sort of "worst case scenario" extreme example of a sweat shop employing 100 people making things to a single designer's specifications. That's a huge logical jump from what myself or MaryMary or any other Admin has said on this topic. A shop such as this would not be allowed on Etsy given the rest of our rules. Perpetuating the idea that this is the direction Etsy is headed is just not constructive or beneficial to anyone. Etsy's mission is to help people make a living making things and provide an alternative to mass-production. We haven't forgotten that.
Posted at 3:14pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT
Where, exactly, is the line drawn, stella? How many employees puts a shop over the top?
Posted at 3:16pm Aug 14, 2008 EDT